Mentally Strong – Amy Morin

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Mentally strong people don’t throw pity parties when they’re going through tough times.

On this episode, Amy Morin, author of the book 13 Things Mentally Strong People Don’t Do, shares practical tips we can use in our daily lives to become a mentally strong person.

One of the ways to become mentally strong is to train your brain.

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arrow-iconMentally strong people don’t waste time feeling sorry for themselves, and they don’t worry about pleasing everyone.

arrow-iconGratitude helps to train your brain to think differently.

arrow-iconWhen you try to please everyone, you lose sight of your values.

arrow-iconThree parts of mental strength:

  • First, figuring out how you regulate your thoughts.
  • Next, regulating your emotions so they don’t control you.
  • Last, figuring out how to behave productively regardless of the circumstances you’re in.

arrow-iconThings you can do daily to build mental strength:

  • Be aware of your bad habits.
  • Ask yourself “What advice would I give somebody else who had this problem?”
  • You can make better decisions when you set some emotions aside.
  • Write things down.

arrow-iconTraining your brain to think differently:

  • Reflect on your progress.
  • Pay attention to exaggerated negative thoughts you have.
  • Figure out how you conquer self-doubt, how you think more realistically, and how you talk to yourself in a compassionate manner.

arrow-iconSimply closing your eyes and thinking about people you love can bring in happiness.

arrow-iconAccept who you are and what you do.

arrow-iconFigure out what your values are and how you are living according to them.

arrow-iconTechnology is making us impatient.

arrow-iconSet realistic goals and look at what you’re going to do today.

arrow-iconYou’re stronger than the voices that say “You can’t do that” or “You’ll fail.”

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TRANSCRIPTION: MENTALLY STRONG – AMY MORIN


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Kamala Chambers

On this episode, we’re going to be talking about things mentally strong people do, and do not do.

Today, we’re here with Amy Morin. She wrote initially, a post that turned into a book 13 Things Mentally Strong People Don’t Do. It’s been translated into 25 languages. The article was seen by more than 50 million people. She’s been featured on CNN, Fox News, Oprah, The Washington Post, and in many different places.

We’re excited to have her here featured on Thriving Launch to talk about becoming mentally strong.

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Luis Congdon

All right, Thriving Launchers, we’re here with Amy Morin.

It’s exciting to be here with her because she has gifted the world and me with some deep thoughts about self-care, boundaries, and things I should and shouldn’t do to take care of myself, and even the people in my world.

So without further ado, Amy, are you ready to launch?

Amy Morin

I am.

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Luis Congdon

Fantastic.

Your book and articles have gone viral and very popular. The centerpiece of your work is the 13 Things Mentally Strong People Don’t Do. I know you have quite a story about that.

I’m curious. How did that even come to be? What made you decide to share this piece of information on what mentally strong people don’t do?

Amy Morin

I was writing on the side. That was my side hustle was being a freelance writer. I’d written articles for years, and then it even went viral, and I never intended for this one to go viral.

Journey To Becoming Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

Here’s a little bit of the backstory. When I was 23, I had just started my career as a therapist when my mother passed away very suddenly from a brain aneurysm. And then, on the three-year anniversary of her death, my 26-year-old husband died of a heart attack.

It was throughout that grief that my journey to become mentally strong became personal. It was something I was always interested in as a therapist, but it was at that point I had to figure out what does becoming mentally strong mean. How do I apply these things to my life?

I became more invested than ever. I saw a lot of people that had gone through tough things, and some of them were able to come out mentally stronger, and other people weren’t. I wanted to know what made some people mentally stronger than others.

Two years down the road, I had gotten remarried, and life was starting to look good again, and my father-in-law was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Found myself in rough spot thinking “It’s unfair,” and “How come every time something good happens, something bad happens? Why do these things have to happen to me?”

Letter About What Mentally Strong People Don’t Do

Amy Morin

Just as quickly as I started to throw a pity party for myself, I said “No. Mentally strong people don’t do that.” I sat down, and I wrote the list of all the things mentally strong people don’t do. It was a letter to me, but I thought, “Well, I’ll publish it online and see if it might help somebody else.”

I put the letter out there to the world, and then a couple of days, millions of people had read it, and then Forbs picked it up, and ten million more people read it on their website. It’s gone on to be read 50 million times online that I know of. And that led to the book.

I was an accidental author. I never even intended to write a book in the first place.

When people started showing so much interest in becoming mentally strong, and all the things mentally strong people don’t do, I was thrilled to be able to turn it into a book.

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Kamala Chambers

What a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing a little bit about your journey, and I know it hasn’t been an easy one.

I’d love to hear from you. What is a mentally strong person?

What A Mentally Strong Person Is

Amy Morin

There are three parts of mental strength.

  1. Figuring out how you regulate your thoughts.

Because you don’t want to think overly negative, but you’ll also don’t want to be too positive.

When people walk into a situation being overly confident, that holds them back too.

It’s about figuring out how do you think realistically and how do you not give those negative or overly positive thoughts too much power in your life.

  1. Regulating your emotions, so your emotions don’t control you.

So that when you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, you can still power to turn your day around and say “What can I do to make it a better day?” So you don’t get stuck in negative emotions.

Then, you’re also just aware of how are you feeling. When you’re anxious, you know that might affect your decision. When you’re sad, how that might affect your relationships. It is being more aware of how you feel.

  1. Figuring out how to behave productively no matter what kind of circumstances you find yourself in.

So even if you don’t feel like going to the gym, you say “Okay. But that’s best for me, so I’m going to do it anyway.”

Those are the three things that make a person mentally strong.

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Kamala Chambers

I think that’s a powerful, clear, and concise way to frame a mentally strong person.

And something I always love to come back to is how we can apply this? What are the practical things we could do to apply this to our lives?

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Luis Congdon

Yeah.

I know sometimes, I get trapped in my head. One of the best strategies I have right now is I go to the woods.

Not everybody has that luxury. I work from home. I have a more liberal schedule where I set my times. I know that a lot of us need some strategy around.

“What if I’m just getting trap in my thoughts? I’m on Facebook. I’m jealous of other people.” That’s one of the things that you say mentally strong people don’t do. They don’t spend time in jealousy of other people’s successes. I know that happens to people. It happens to me from time to time, or I get caught up in some negative loop.

What do you suggest to help us snap out of that?

Being Aware And Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

The first one is to be aware.

We talk so about good habits but when it comes to our bad habits, we just have to be aware of them and when you’re doing them so you don’t get stuck in them.

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Amy Morin

Then, you can be able to say, “Okay. What advice would I give to a friend who had this problem?” We’re usually much kinder to other people, whereas you might beat yourself up about something. You probably be kind to somebody else. But at the same time, if it’s a trusted friend, hopefully, you’d be honest.

Ask yourself “What advice would I give somebody else?” Take some of that emotion out of it, and you can make better decisions when you do that.

Writing Things Down To Become Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

Another thing you can do is just write things down. When we’re stuck in our head and can’t figure something out, writing things down on paper forces you to look at it.

You can see things differently when you just put it out there and examine it on a piece of paper.

I think if we spend more time writing things down, and

I’m a fan of using a notebook and a pen. You can use the computer if you want.

Just physically writing something down makes you look at things just a little bit differently.

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Kamala Chambers

Those are some great things we can do.

Why don’t we talk about some of the things we can’t do, or mentally strong people don’t do.

Amy Morin

Yeah. The first one on my list is that mainly, strong people don’t waste time feeling sorry for them.

What Mentally Strong People Don’t Do

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Amy Morin

I told you in my story. There’s a reason that was number on the list because that was right there with what I was going through. I think all of us do that sometimes.

It’s a matter of figuring out that it’s okay to be sad and by all means, you should grieve when you lose somebody, or when you’re going through tough times, to be angry. All of those things are okay.

Self-pity goes beyond that. It’s when you start to exaggerate what’s going on in your life thinking that there’s no hope, that there aren’t any possible solutions and you just dwell on the problem. When you catch yourself doing that, it’s about saying “Okay. Pity parties aren’t helpful. What can I do instead?”

Sometimes, it’s forcing yourself to get off of the couch and go do something even when you don’t feel like it. Or it’s a matter of just changing your thinking and saying “Okay. I’ve been through tough stuff before. I can get through this too.”

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Luis Congdon

I like that.

A lot of you guys know that I lost my mother when I was five years old, and I was adopted, and came to The United States.

One of the things that happened to me as a kid being adopted is I did feel sorry for myself. I know that the big shift happened somewhere in my late teens when I started going “Wait. This isn’t productive to feel bad that I was adopted and lost my mother. I need to reframe that. I need to have a different story about what happened and the significance of it.

What you’re saying is very powerful for parents, for an individual, and for us to pass down to other people.

Amy Morin

Yeah.

Mentally Strong People Don’t Throw Pity Parties

Amy Morin

It’s interesting to me as a therapist as people come in my office. Sometimes, I hear these outrageous stories of all these things people have been through. They’ll say “But it’s not that bad” or they don’t by any means feel sorry for themselves. It was one of the things I noticed over the years.

People that had gone through tough times who didn’t throw themselves a pity party got better much faster.

I had just learned that over the years that when somebody came into my office and just wanted to keep telling me all the bad things in life, they often got stuck in that. When I would offer ideas and we start looking at solutions, they’d have 101 reasons why those things wouldn’t work.

When somebody didn’t feel sorry for themselves, they would come in and they were ready, and say “Okay. Let’s go. Those are bad things that happened to me but let’s move forward, and how do we do that?”

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Luis Congdon

At the very top at the bar across your website is a banner of you. The banner shows you’re on stage. It looks like maybe you’re speaking at an event. Right behind you, there’s a quote saying “Train your brain.”

That’s what you’re talking about is training our brain. Do you that that’s possible?

Obviously, I feel like you can but I’m asking you because I know a lot of us feel like we have some mental patterns and we go back to that every day. And so, it feels impossible to become a positive person or to have different thoughts.

Amy Morin

That’s right.

I think everybody that I talked to who come into my therapy office. Sometimes, they’ll have some hope of “What can I do to train their brain?” But also, they have to do the work.

Train Your Brain To Become Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

I don’t have any magic wands that will fix your brain but it’s only about going through the emotions every day. You can exercise your brain just like you can train your biceps to become bigger.

You can train your brain to think differently and it takes work and concerted effort. You have to reflect on your progress, check in with yourself, and pay attention to those exaggeratedly negative thoughts that you have.

Figure out how do you conquer that self-doubt? How do you think more realistically? How do you talk to yourself in a kind and compassionate manner?

After a while, those things become second nature. But, it’s a lot of work to get there.

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Kamala Chambers

Dr. Rick Hanson, who we just had on the show, talked about one of the ways to train your brain is just taking in the moment like the moments of goodness. Just letting us marinade in those, and soak in those moments. And by doing that, we’re training ourselves to experience that more.

There are many of these surprising ways that we could shift our brain chemistry.

I wonder what else you’ve found mentally strong do that help them to train their brain?

Being Grateful To Be Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

One big one is just gratitude and it’s a simple thing. It could be as easy as saying “Okay. Over dinner every day as a family, let’s go around the table and find one thing that we’re grateful for.”

If you keep a gratitude journal, the research is incredible. The benefits are everything from “you’ll sleep better” to probably “Live longer, and you have better relationships.”

The list goes on and on about the physical and psychological benefits that happen when you say “Okay. I’m going to make this one daily habit.” It takes two or three minutes out of your day at most but it helps to make your brain to start to look for the good in the world and changes your entire outlook on health.

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Luis Congdon

Just as you were saying that Amy, one of the things I did is I close my eyes and I thought about some people I love, and cycle through some beautiful moments and you can do this easily. I was just doing it and I felt these surges of relaxation, happiness, and laughter go through my body.

Happy And Mentally Strong

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Luis Congdon

I just wanted to share that because I think a lot of us here forget how simple it is to bring in happiness simply by closing your eyes or looking through pictures of people you love, or cycling through that in your head.

As a matter of fact, one of our guests Dr. Paul J. Zak talked about the research of oxytocin. One of the things they did to research oxytocin is they watched people, and measured their levels of oxytocin, serotonin, dopamine, and a variety of other chemicals happened in the brain while they looked at Facebook.

Researchers found that if people looked at Facebook and at pictures of people they love, the oxytocin levels went up, their happiness levels increased, and they become mentally strong.

Amy Morin

Yeah. I think that’s amazing.

Doing Tiny Habits To Be Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

For people to know, it only takes a couple of seconds, and you can do a lot of these things anywhere.

Just pull up the pictures of people when you’re having a bad day. Look at it at work. Take it even at your lunch break, and just think about the things you’re grateful for.

Doing little teeny tiny habits only takes a few minutes but it can change the course of your entire life.

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Kamala Chambers

Let’s dive a little deeper into some of the things mentally strong people don’t do.

Mentally Strong People Don’t Worry About Pleasing Everyone

Amy Morin

Another big one people talk about is that mentally strong people don’t worry about pleasing everyone. I run into tons of people who say “It’s hard in saying “No. I don’t want somebody to be mad at me,” or I don’t want other people to think that I’m selfish.”

But after a while, they lose sight of their values and they end up going with the flow, or trying to do whatever they think will get them the most appreciation from other people. After a while, it becomes selfish because it’s saying “I need to have grace and acceptance from everyone else around me,” rather than living the kind of life they want to live.

Growing To Be Mentally Strong By Learning Self-Acceptance

Amy Morin

It’s about figuring out what is it that I want? What are my values? And how do I stick to those?

Know that sometimes, people are going to be mad at you and aren’t going to like what you do but that’s okay. It’s about self-acceptance. Once you’re okay with who you are and what you do, then it feels fine to know not everybody else has to be.

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Luis Congdon

I thought of Kamala as you were talking about people pleasing or having a hard time saying things that might upset people in your life. Kamala is somebody that does a fantastic job of taking care of the people in her world. She’s very wonderful and exceptional, and I mean that in the most positive way.

Women Becoming Mentally Strong

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Luis Congdon

Sometimes, this is something I noticed about a lot of women is they’re societally have been trained in a lot of ways to care take, to give, and to worry about saying some of things that might be hard to say, or allowing other people to take care of that, or worrying about offending someone.

I’m curious, how do women respond? Or what’s your take on how to help women overcome that?

I know men, we need that too. I’m focused on women because research wise and my own subjective opinion from being with a lot of people is that women kind of struggle with this advice here.

Amy Morin

Yes, and it’s definitely women that I get the biggest reactions from when they read that chapter in the book. For many of them, it’s terrifying. How do you start saying “No” to somebody?

A lot of people will say, “I don’t even know what I want anymore.” Even little decisions like when somebody says “Where do you want to eat dinner?” And they say “Oh, I don’t care,” because it’s just been ingrained in them that you just go with the flow no matter what even if it’s not what you want to do.

For a lot of people, it’s just about raising that awareness. “What is it that I want?” You just practice speaking up for yourself in little situations, and then when the sky doesn’t fall, after a while, people get a little more courage to do it and to figure out “How do I live my best life?”

Key To Becoming Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

In the book, I have some examples of figuring out what your values are and then, to look at how are you living according to your values. What kinds of areas or things out of proportion you’re spending too much time and effort on? Then, make those things line up and often, that’s scary and hard for you.

You know that other people might think, “What are you doing?” when you change the way that you behave and the choices you make. But overtime, it’s the key to becoming mentally strong.

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Kamala Chambers

One of your points I think is of particular importance especially for the entrepreneurs who are listening to the show is not expecting immediate results, and that’s something mentally strong people do.

Patience Is Needed To Be Mentally Strong

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Kamala Chambers

Something about the space that we’re in like if you’re building a business and you want results immediately. You want to be able to start making money right away. Like the first two years I was in business, I didn’t make any money. That’s insane.

I’d love to hear more from you about not expecting immediate results and how important that is for mentally strong people.

Amy Morin

It’s huge and I blame our technology on making us more impatient than ever.

We think, “If I can order something and it’s on my doorstep in 24 hours, I’ll be able to start a business and make it successful in one week.” Or people will tend to say, “I’ve been working on this one project for two months. I’m not seeing results so I’m just going to give up.”

I see people who want to lose weight, and they’ll say, “I’ll pound a two or week, then, I’ll never get there.” They don’t even bother trying.

Set Realistic Goals To Be Mentally Strong

Amy Morin

It’s about how do you set realistic goals for yourself, and how do you look at “What is it I’m going to do today?” You’re not going lose 100 lbs. overnight or you’re not going to save $100,000 in your 401k this week.

What are the little steps you can take today? Then, how do you keep yourself accountable?

Sometimes, it’s just a matter of having a calendar on the wall where you can check off that you went to the gym or you say, “Okay. I saved $10 today.” And, looking at it, and facing it. You tend to have a lot of anxiety about goals and our inability to get there fast, so a lot of people just give up. It’s about facing your progress and saying “I’m going to take a look at how I’m doing.”

Mentally Strong People Started Taking Small Steps

Amy Morin

Once you know, “I’m taking small baby steps. Even though they’re small, at least they’re the steps in the right direction,” it can help you stay the course and to be able to look at it as more of a marathon rather than a sprint.

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Kamala Chambers

You’ve giving us much value on this interview.

Before we go, what is the last thing you want the Thriving Launchers to walk away with on how to become mentally strong?

Amy Morin

You’re stronger than you think.

We tend to have so many thoughts that bombard us with things, “You can’t do that,” “You’ll fail,” “Nobody’s going to like that.” Or whatever it is that goes through your head.

You know that just because you think it, doesn’t mean it’s true, and you can talk back to that self-doubt and critique your mind, and know you can be stronger than that.

You can go ahead and do those things anyway even if you have that voice that bombards you with all the reasons you shouldn’t do it.

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Kamala Chambers

We’ve been here with Amy Morin talking about things mentally strong people do and do not do.

It’s been great having her on the show.

I encourage you to all go out and start applying some of these things that we learned today.

Keep thriving everyone.

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